And a quote post to prove the point!
How the quote-post debate demonstrates that many Mastodon users know nothing about the Fediverse
One of the worst aspects of Mastodon's plans to introduce quote-posts with a switch:You keep having to tell Mastodon users that the Fediverse is not only Mastodon. That (insert a long list of Fediverse server applications here¹) have had quote-posts from the beginning. That they're all in the Fediverse. That they're all fully federated with Mastodon. That they can all quote-post any Mastodon toot they can possibly receive or import. And that they will be able to quote-post any Mastodon toot they can in the future, regardless of Mastodon account settings.
Up until this point, they were fully, firmly convinced that they're 100% safe from quote-posts on Mastodon. Either because they could not for the lives of them imagine that anything in the Fediverse has them. Or simply because they "knew" up until this point that the Fediverse is Mastodon. And if Mastodon introduces an opt-out or opt-in switch, this switch will mean absolute, 100% water-tight safety from quote-posts.
But for the Fediverse outside of Mastodon, the quote-post switch will be completely useless. Again: These lots of Fediverse server apps have had quote-posts before Mastodon introduced them. They had quote-posts before Mastodon invented the opt-in or opt-out switch. I mean, at least two of them have had quote-posts since before Mastodon even existed! So how are they supposed to support a proprietary, non-standard, Mastodon-specific switch which probably won't be documented anywhere before Mastodon rolls out quote-posts?
I'll tell you what'll happen.
Mastodon users will deactivate quote-posts for their accounts or not activate them in the first place. Non-Mastodon users, not knowing about the status of that switch, will quote-post them regardless with zero resistance. Upon which these Mastodon users will shit brix. And they'll call for either blocking that obviously rogue Mastodon user instance-wide, or blocking that user's instance, or Fediblocking that user's instance.
At this point, someone else who is not on Mastodon either will chime in and tell them: That particular user is, in fact, not on Mastodon. The Fediverse is not only Mastodon. That user is on Friendica. No, Friendica is not a rogue Mastodon instance. Friendica is not Mastodon at all. No, Friendica isn't a Mastodon fork either. Friendica has nothing to do with Mastodon. In fact, Friendica is older than Mastodon. On Friendica, quote-posts are perfectly normal. Friendica has had quote-posts for longer than Mastodon has even existed. And so forth.
Cue the Mastodon user shitting brix again, foaming with anger and calling for a Fediblock of all of Friendica.
In fact, I'm pretty sure that if Mastodon's quote-post feature and the rest of the Fediverse disregarding it leads to more awareness of the non-Mastodon Fediverse and its non-Mastodon features on Mastodon, it will also lead to demands for being able to completely block everything that isn't Mastodon, either on an account level (and then on by default, of course) or on an instance level or both.
Oh, by the way: The ability to completely lock out entire Fediverse projects already exists in the Fediverse right now, too. It's exclusive to two other Fediverse server apps that aren't Mastodon, both of which introduced this feature in September.
¹Here's a probably incomplete list of still-active Fediverse server apps with quote-posts which, yes, can quote-post Mastodon toots right now and will be able to quote-post Mastodon toots regardless of opt-in or opt-out:
- Pleroma
- Akkoma
- Misskey
- Firefish
- Sharkey
- Iceshrimp
- Iceshrimp.NET
- CherryPick
- Neko
- Catodon
- Meisskey
- Tanukey
- Metaskey
- Mitra
- Friendica
- Hubzilla
- (streams)
- Forte
And both Threads and the Bridgy Fed Bluesky bridge support quote-posts, too.(Inb4 both Oliphant and The Bad Space trying hard to catch all instances of the server apps mentioned above to blocklist them all.)
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Nous sommes ce que nous faisons de manière répétée. L'excellence n'est donc pas un acte mais une habitude.
Citation apocryphe.
L'erreur d'attribution vient du fait que Will Durant, dans son ouvrage "The Story of Philosophy: The Lives and Opinions of the World's Greatest Philosophers" (1926), a pris le résumé des idées d'Aristote comme étant les mots d'Aristote lui-même.
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|Nous sommes ce que nous faisons de manière répétée. L'excellence n'est donc pas un acte mais une habitude.|
On peut obtenir beaucoup plus avec un mot gentil et un revolver, qu'avec un mot gentil tout seul.
Citation apocryphe.
Quote Investigator émet l'hypothèse que cette boutade a été élaborée par l'humoriste Professeur Irwin Corey en 1953. De plus, QI pense que Corey a fabriqué l'attribution à Al Capone en 1969 pour renforcer l'effet comique et sans réelle intention de tromper. Néanmoins, l'attribution a été prise au sérieux et, aujourd'hui, l'expression est souvent attribuée à tort à Capone.
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|On peut obtenir beaucoup plus avec un mot gentil et un revolver, qu'avec un mot gentil tout seul.|
Ne juge pas la journée en fonction de la récolte du soir mais d'après les graines que tu as semées.
Citation apocryphe. Nous devons ce précepte à William Arthur Ward, écrivain américain connu pour ses proverbes, pensées et citations, sous cette forme:
«Jugez chaque jour non pas par la récolte que vous avez faite, mais par les graines que vous plantez.»
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|Ne juge pas la journée en fonction de la récolte du soir mais d'après les graines que tu as semées.|
Downtime
Sorry for the downtime, server crashed and I wasn't able to address it quickly or smoothly in my current mental state.
I took advantage of the downtime, and probably exacerbated it a little, and finally did the migration back to local hardware... so it *should* be more reliable.
What honestly stretched it out a lot is that I also applied the most recent stable Friendica version and that took forever to update the database.
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It's with a heavy heart that I'm letting y'all know that I'm disabling open-registrations and *encouraging* all users to find a new home.
I'm not kicking anyone off my server, but unfortunately due to the political situation here in the US the chance for things to go *very bad very quickly* I can not vouch for this server as reliable.
I live in Texas and need to figure out plans to evacuate at this point. I was holding out hope that we'd at least have status quo (as monstrously awful as it is) for longer.
And to make things worse, I'm a trans-woman, they actively want to make my very existence (let alone presence online) illegal and have been building the machinery to make that a very fast process once Trump assumes office.
So I do not recommend this server any longer for those reasons, if you choose to stay I'll continue to run it and support y'all.
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Holy shit, today I learned... now I can at least follow people on Bluesky without having to make an account... (Bonus because Friendica supports RSS natively, but y'all on Mastodon and similar will probably benefit from this)
One of my favorite people is now on blue sky, and I dont want to create a bluesky account just to follow him.Fortunately every blue sky account has an rss feed, and RSSParrot can create a fediverse account for me to follow so I can get my favorite twitch streamer's bluesky updates right in my mastodon timeline: rss-parrot.net/
#RSS #Mastodon #BlueSky #RSSParrot
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Home of RSS Parrot, a free Fediverse service that lets you turn Mastodon into an RSS or Atom feed reader.rss-parrot.net
My instance is currently running on a rented dedicated server, but in the next few weeks gets transferred back down to my own local hardware. But it still doesn't cost nothing to run even after that (power, internet, upgrades, backups, time).
I literally never received a donation, but I keep trucking on.
That said, running your own instance is rewarding and I definitely encourage shared hosting solutions.
The power of the fediverse is decentralization which doesn’t happen by accident. If you’re on a server you love then support it financially, but if you’re thinking of changing servers consider spinning up your own.The cost of managed hosting via @fedihost is the same as what I was previously contributing to my prior server, but now I have complete control of my experience.
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#Mastodon #PeerTube #Pixelfed #Fediverse #Decentralize #KeepSocialSmall
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in reply to Server News • •Thanks for that