NARRATOR: (Black screen with text; The sound of buzzing bees can be heard) According to all known laws of aviation, : there is no way a bee should be able to fly. : Its wings are too small to get its fat little body off the ground. : The bee, of course, flies anyway : because bees don't care what humans think is impossible. BARRY BENSON: (Barry is picking out a shirt) Yellow, black. Yellow, black. Yellow, black. Yellow, black. : Ooh, black and yellow! Let's shake it up a little. JANET BENSON: Barry! Breakfast is ready! BARRY: Coming! : Hang on a second. (Barry uses his antenna like a phone) : Hello? ADAM FLAYMAN:
(Through phone) - Barry? BARRY: - Adam? ADAM: - Can you believe this is happening? BARRY: - I can't. I'll pick you up. (Barry flies down the stairs) : MARTIN BENSON: Looking sharp. JANET: Use the stairs. Your father paid good money for those. BARRY: Sorry. I'm excited. MARTIN: Here's the graduate. We're very proud of you, son. : A perfect report card, all B's. JANET: Very proud. (Rubs Barry's hair) BARRY= Ma! I got a thing going here. JANET: - You got lint on your fuzz. BARRY: - Ow! That's me!
JANET: - Wave to us! We'll be in row 118,000. - Bye! (Barry flies out the door) JANET: Barry, I told you, stop flying in the house! (Barry drives through the hive,and is waved at by Adam who is reading a newspaper) BARRY== - Hey, Adam. ADAM: - Hey, Barry. (Adam gets in Barry's car) : - Is that fuzz gel? BARRY: - A little. Special day, graduation. ADAM: Never thought I'd make it. (Barry pulls away from the house and continues driving) BARRY: Three days grade school, three days high school... ADAM: Those were awkward. BARRY: Three days college. I'm glad I took a day and hitchhiked around the hive. ADAM== You did come back different. (Barry and Adam pass by Artie, who is jogging) ARTIE: - Hi, Barry!
BARRY: - Artie, growing a mustache? Looks good. ADAM: - Hear about Frankie? BARRY: - Yeah. ADAM== - You going to the funeral? BARRY: - No, I'm not going to his funeral. : Everybody knows, sting someone, you die. : Don't waste it on a squirrel. Such a hothead. ADAM: I guess he could have just gotten out of the way. (The car does a barrel roll on the loop-shaped bridge and lands on the highway) : I love this incorporating an amusement park into our regular day. BARRY: I guess that's why they say we don't need vacations. (Barry parallel parks the car and together they fly over the graduating students) Boy, quite a bit of pomp... under the circumstances. (Barry and Adam sit down and put on their hats) : - Well, Adam, today we are men.
ADAM: - We are! BARRY= - Bee-men. =ADAM= - Amen! BARRY AND ADAM: Hallelujah! (Barry and Adam both have a happy spasm) ANNOUNCER: Students, faculty, distinguished bees, : please welcome Dean Buzzwell. DEAN BUZZWELL: Welcome, New Hive Oity graduating class of... : ...9: : That concludes our ceremonies. : And begins your career at Honex Industries! ADAM: Will we pick our job today? (Adam and Barry get into a tour bus) BARRY= I heard it's just orientation. (Tour buses rise out of the ground and the students are automatically loaded into the buses) TOUR GUIDE: Heads up! Here we go.
Hey y'all! Say Hi to my delightful sister! @emilie_stims
She's new to the whole fediverse thing and a little overwhelmed. If you want to catch her interest, I recommend talking about birds, ren faire, singing, and folklore as some easy topics!
But do me a favor and let her know how friendly the fediverse is ❤
So the root thing behind this that we only relatively recently figured out is that much of it comes from us having value based identities (as opposed to organization/association based identities).
Allistics tend to have much more fluid relationships to their values, because while important, their values aren't fundamentally who they are. Instead their identities are based off of their social structures (think things like "team spirit", "hometown pride", etc). Their values shift based on whether people are watching and how their actions relate to the groups they associate themselves with.
We on the other hand typically root our value purely in our values: the choices and actions we make. We're consistent regardless of whether someone is watching, as well as whether or not the thing impacts groups we're a part of. (things like "If it can be destroyed by the truth then it should be")
So of course we're angered by injustice... it's people and groups around us betraying their own values constantly. And so often one of our key values is "stand up against oppression", so we'd be betraying ourselves if we didn't get infuriated.
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I don't mean this title as a comparison, but as an antagonistic relationship...
I've been off-and-on in the fediverse for longer than Mastodon has existed, I've followed the building of the fediverse since before ActivityPub ever existed.
I still consider it a blessing the explosive growth that happened within the fediverse... but I'm honestly sickened by the Mastodon effect of it...
So many of the new people hopped on Mastodon and thought that fediverse is just another name for Mastodon... some people even got so far as thinking fediverse is just another name for ActivityPub...
And people came with so many flawed views of what they think the fediverse is as well as completely unrealistic ideas of what it should be.
So many people see it as this miracle pill against all the evils of corporate social servers like Twitter, fixing every single problem that's ever existed in those communities.
... Those people are completely delusional... but they're loud and violent.
They get pissed off any time they run into the actual fediverse... they get pissed off when they realize there's platforms other than Mastodon that don't even remotely behave like Mastodon or especially their imaginary version of Mastodon.
And frankly... I'm getting pissed off at the entitlement of these people.
They think the fediverse is all about their consent on who can see their posts... this is like going to a waterpark and complaining that you didn't consent to getting wet... you went to a waterpark! When you post on the fediverse, you have consented... if you don't consent then you don't post to the fediverse. Reminds me of the annoying cycles of people sharing blocks of vaguely legal looking text to Facebook to try and override the TOS, thinking they can just say "I don't consent to the TOS" to get out of it when you explicitly consented by joining and you revoke that consent by leaving.
They think this is the place for private insular communities... because they walked into an empty park and thought "this public space is mine and will never have crowds of people wandering through". They get pissed at the idea of Meta joining the fediverse with Threads because it means there might be actually be a crowd walking through this public space...
They fuss about community as if their little tiny corner of the fediverse is the whole thing. They mistake their standards and agreements as those for the whole fediverse.
And worst of all these people will actively harass someone over expanding the federation of the fediverse in a way that's not only normal, but part of the specific design of how this place works... especially as these people are so damn clueless they think this is a single instance they can just tear down with pitchforks as opposed to just the one that briefly crossed their attention.
People who want to actively destroy the fediverse by isolating it, breaking it, and otherwise trying to "control" it can get bent.
Recently, Ryan Barrett re-announced his Bridgy Fed project to the Fediverse. As a service, it's designed wih one specific goal in mind: to make parts of the decenralized social web that speak differen
Watching people freak out over someone making a bridge to another fedi platform...
Do people even know how the fediverse works? Interoperability?
Boggles my mind how much impact people think a shittily moderated instance will impact the broader system.
People flip over the idea of connecting to Bluesky or Threads... how many of you know about the trainwreck of Nostr and it's AP bridge? That's the worst network of them all and you still don't hear about it, which tells you everything you need to know.
I can get worrying about making moderation harder, especially if a trillion different bridges pop up and it becomes a game of wack a mole trying to defederate with those relays; but I've mainly seen people worrying about privacy and not wanting bluesky users to see their posts. Which, imo is kinda dumb since fedi is VERY open. If a company like meta wanted to, they could data harvest most of fedi. Nothing is stopping bluesky users from going to your instance's profile and reading your posts. protocols to encrypt/require authorization to get data are currently jank and seldom used. I'm guessing it's maybe a discovery issue? But that seems less of an issue with bluesky and more an issue with the fediverse growing. As well, it's not like we don't have the tools to deal with this 🤷♂️ instance owners who want to federate with the relay can, and those who don't can moderate it to whichever degree they like. Though Ultimately I think cross federation tools should be built into instances instead of relays, since being able to pick and choose which posts federate where would be a nice feature, and far more clean.
@Linus I'm all for relays just because they reduce the programming load... programming one system vs every different platform having to program a separate support. Notably few platforms do this anyways for other protocols (you don't see any mastodon instances supporting the diaspora protocol for instance). Let alone relays are better for interoperability, if I boost/reshare a post from a different network on Friendica it's basically going to disconnect it from the source... even other friendica instances won't see it connected like they would from a relay (let alone the fact that this bypasses moderation tools).
I definitely think it's the usual of people imagining a threat rather than actually perceiving one. We can readily block relays if necessary, and there's just as much risk of a new relay popping up as a blocked instance moving around, so it makes no difference in blocking.
And of course people freak out about privacy all the time. It annoys me to no end how little people care to learn about their privacy while still freaking out over things that have little impact on their privacy. They're posting publicly and getting upset that strangers can see it...
I concur. This might be a bit of a controversial take right now, since a lot of people are still riled up; but I feel the opt in/out consent issue also boils down to it being similar (or maybe technically identical, I need to look more into how the relay would work) to a new instance joining fedi. I understand people not wanting their posts on bluesky. but at the same time, the way fedi works, you don't need to get everyone's consent to spin up a new instance, that would be ridiculous. If bluesky decided to support AP or even spin up a dedicated AP instance (people would likely treat them similar to threads, moderating them to whichever degree they'd like), there likely wouldn't be a discussion about opting in or out of threads seeing your posts. It's just how fedi works X3. I also understand that there could be cultural differences between fedi and bluesky users, but once again that's a moderation issue that we have the tools to manage. If you don't want to interact with bluesky users, much like users of any other instance, you don't have to.
Also the relay being in the instance is totally just a convenience thing X3 you make a good point about the extra effort to implement and maintain an entire separate system, let alone getting them to work together. I'm gonna keep dreaming though!
Thanks for this. I've been following this with interest but as someone who knows next to nothing about the technical aspects of AP, BSky and most of the other stuff I was unsure how much of the freakout was justified.
@Kevin Karhan Bluesky is, once it's federated. A lot of people think the fediverse is only ActivityPub or even worse only Mastodon, so they think this is some huge thing as opposed to something that's already happened hundreds of times already
@Kevin Karhan And that's entirely fair, the issue is people who are spewing obscenities at a developer making an AP/AT bridge. Especially since not all AT will be Bluesky before long.
When your code violates the social norms of a community, you could learn that code comes *after* people. Or you could insist that just because you CAN you don’t need to care about that part at all and just use technical blah to justify your actions. Simple. #bridgy
#TLDR: Fedi never asked for this and it's considered a as much as an asshole move as violating the #robotstxt and literally DDoS'ing a site with a Crawler like #ByteDance does regularly using #ByteSpider...
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@Kevin Karhan @Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: this honestly doesn't violate the social norms of the community at large, just a very angry small subset who feel entitled to dictate the norms for a community that predates them and includes many many other groups who feel differently.
It's very telling to me that as usual the loudest voices are all on the least compliant platform of the fediverse...
@jwildeboer Hey, I'm just complying with the robots.txt and I think #BlueSky is just valueRemoving to the point that I in fact block their domain and bridges on my account...
@kkarhan Kevin, you are misinformed. Bluesky is based on AT protocol and all developer documentation clearly states that it is a federated network and in their sandbox people are already running personal servers in that federated network. They do a gradual rollout of features. It is not a "website" like X/Twitter or Facebook, etc. You can even bring your own DNS domain to make your username handle independent from their servers.
@jwildeboer And that's precisely what's different in Bridgy Fed - it will be bidirectional and allow true follow/response relationship over the networks - because both networks enable federated read/write/follow. That is qualitatively different functionality vs bridges to networks that allow read-only. It also means that a follow request implies opt-in as core feature.
A better comparison is Matrix's bridges to XMPP, Slack, WhatsApp, Discord, etc. @shiri @kkarhan
Maybe the idea of using i.e. [self-hosted] #Zulip or #XMPP is precisely not to have to deal with the #Enshittification of #WhatsApp and the inacceptable #ToS of it and it's competitiors...
If I want to use some proprietary & centralized garbage I would've made that choice, regardless if #Signal, WhatsApp, #Telegram, #Discord, #Line or whatever...
@kkarhan No one is forcing you to interact with networks you don't want to. For people who value people over technology, bridges enable freedom from walled gardens, and denying the use of bridges by others is freedom-limiting. Your freedom to not use bridges is not more valuable than other people's freedom to choose them. @jwildeboer @shiri
@osma @jwildeboer Again: You have the choice to #SelfHost and not limit yourself to anything whatsoever...
But one should also have the freedom to not deal with such spambots to begin with.
Whether that decision should be made individually, by vote.from the users of an instance of sole.discretion of the moderators is a discussion I'll not waste my time with, so I'll move on!
Just FYI, I've got zero interest in people bringing their whiny bullshit to my posts on the topic. So I'm just blocking strangers who bring the fight here.
I've had my fill of self-centered assholes who want everyone to bend over for their bullshit unrealistic vision of federation.
Your ideal version will never exist and your rage at finding out it doesn't can go fuck itself.
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Ugh... I am sick of finances right now... my cat had an emergency followed by my sibling/roommate having emergencies and I have been running in poverty mode for weeks now with at least a whole month to go...
Latest issue: gotta pay rent and my phone bill on the 5th, but only enough money to cover on... Need to scrounge up $150 or so before Tuesday ($10-$20 more if after Friday because some other things are hitting) or they're going to put restrictions on our phones (yes it's alot, it's 3 phone lines + 4 device payments). And it's not that I don't really have the money... I just have the money 3 days later...
The Mouse that has become public is not the Mouse we have all seen in our childhoods... instead it is the original Mouse from the late 20's. My family has a Mickey Mouse from this time period set in ceramic.
Differences... his pants are yellow, not red. His face is not as rounded but has more of a pointed (mousey shape). Pacman eyes! Most of the cartoons and drawings from this period were in B/W... not color.
Sadly my sis has the ceramic Mickey so I do not have a pic of him tonight.
@R. Nicole interestingly enough it's nowhere near as precise as that.
The remaining depictions of Mickey under copyright only hold copyright on significant changes.
In all honesty most of what defines Mickey is available for use, outside of outfits (ie. Fantasia Mickey is a very distinct look) and specific performances there hasn't been significant change in the character model (though be mindful that with broken legal systems, especially in the US, you don't actually have to do anything wrong for Disney to sue you and once they do you probably can't afford to prove your case...)
Hence why as a crochet amiguri artist I will likely never use a "Mickey" anything. lol
I figured it was solely the 1920xs version... odd they are only using his specific costumes and depictions in certain shows instead of just allowing the early mouse version. I figured they would hold onto that far more closely.
Interesting. I still am not gonna try it, I have no money for that kind of lawsuit! lol Be well.
I think I feel confident enough that people may actually read this now:
First of all is to throw out just about everything you've seen. Extremely few things are even mostly accurate, and the few I've seen of those bury the facts deep under fearmongering...
Public domain means you can use that version however you like... so long as you're not violating some other law (such as trademark) in the process. Copyright no longer applies and it's much the same as the works of Shakespeare, or the Brothers Grimm (which notably Disney used to build much of it's empire...)
Since Public Domain is as simple as it can get, that part is fairly clean and hard to distort... Trademark on the other hand goes way over many peoples' heads.
First, basic idea of trademark: it's specifically narrow in scope, does not prohibit others from using the trademarked property in general, only prohibits it's use in ways that would confuse people or would dilute the trademark.
Simply put, if a reasonable person would get confused looking at that usage of Mickey and could think it was something official from Disney... then it's a violation of their trademark.
Notably the trademark they have applies to the name Mickey Mouse (and names have no copyright) as well as the depiction of Mickey Mouse (in all versions, both copyrighted and public domain).
The reality is there's only really two things you can't do: * Use Mickey in any way that's not clearly separate from Disney (and including things like a big bold "Unofficial" or "Not Licensed By Disney" or similar does cover that, just so long as they're not hidden). * Use Mickey or a mouse reasonably confused for Mickey in your branding (this constitutes dilution, which means while people may not be confused it does make it so Mickey stops being associated with Disney)
Notable odd details not usually covered: * If you make a significantly different version based on this version. (For instance if you were to re-animate Steamboat Willie with entirely new art.) You own the copyright on that version, though your copyright only extends so far as the significant contributions you've made or the exact depiction (ie. if someone tries to sell your rendition of Mickey without significant changes to it... ie. you can't grab someone's fan art and sell it, but you can make your own similar fan art and sell that) * This actually applies to Disney's own copyright on Mickey as well, all later versions retain only the copyright on their significant contributions. For instance depicting Mickey in color is a grey area (pun intended), but precident says it is allowable as "adding color" is not considered to be a meaningful contribution to the work. (The Fantasia Mickey of course is a prime example of a meaningful contribution as that depiction is very distinctive).
I think I feel confident enough that people may actually read this now:
First of all is to throw out just about everything you've seen. Extremely few things are even mostly accurate, and the few I've seen of those bury the facts deep under fearmongering...
Public domain means you can use that version however you like... so long as you're not violating some other law (such as trademark) in the process. Copyright no longer applies and it's much the same as the works of Shakespeare, or the Brothers Grimm (which notably Disney used to build much of it's empire...)
Since Public Domain is as simple as it can get, that part is fairly clean and hard to distort... Trademark on the other hand goes way over many peoples' heads.
First, basic idea of trademark: it's specifically narrow in scope, does not prohibit others from using the trademarked property in general, only prohibits it's use in ways that would confuse people or would dilute the trademark.
Simply put, if a reasonable person would get confused looking at that usage of Mickey and could think it was something official from Disney... then it's a violation of their trademark.
Notably the trademark they have applies to the name Mickey Mouse (and names have no copyright) as well as the depiction of Mickey Mouse (in all versions, both copyrighted and public domain).
The reality is there's only really two things you can't do: * Use Mickey in any way that's not clearly separate from Disney (and including things like a big bold "Unofficial" or "Not Licensed By Disney" or similar does cover that, just so long as they're not hidden). * Use Mickey or a mouse reasonably confused for Mickey in your branding (this constitutes dilution, which means while people may not be confused it does make it so Mickey stops being associated with Disney)
Notable odd details not usually covered: * If you make a significantly different version based on this version. (For instance if you were to re-animate Steamboat Willie with entirely new art.) You own the copyright on that version, though your copyright only extends so far as the significant contributions you've made or the exact depiction (ie. if someone tries to sell your rendition of Mickey without significant changes to it... ie. you can't grab someone's fan art and sell it, but you can make your own similar fan art and sell that) * This actually applies to Disney's own copyright on Mickey as well, all later versions retain only the copyright on their significant contributions. For instance depicting Mickey in color is a grey area (pun intended), but precident says it is allowable as "adding color" is not considered to be a meaningful contribution to the work. (The Fantasia Mickey of course is a prime example of a meaningful contribution as that depiction is very distinctive).
Ugh... I feel the dire urge to rant on topics that sadly I'd be lucky if 5 people even would read them, and I'm fighting emotional and physical exhaustion before I even start...
I'm so tired of people gaslighting left and right online... not remotely willing to learn basic details and instead repeating something that's already spent 12 rounds in a game of telephone... and that non-sense spreading like wildfire while basic fucking facts get ignored...
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Had to wait days to get the server back online because the replacement hard drive appears to have been DOA so I had to get a replacement replacement hard drive, but the original drive failed entirely before that got here...
So... finally back up and running.
(I do have a Raid-5 style setup under LVM, so thankfully that means no data was lost... but it wasn't in a great position to run it in the mean time. I plan to try and upgrade it to RAID-6 style soonish so I can safely run it deprecated... as well as a few other configuration changes that'll help performance and reliability)
Just recently had to break it down in a group because it's been flaring up, figured a post would be nice.
This may seem like a Jewish specific topic, but it is important for non-Jews to know as well.
Zionism vs Anti-Zionism.
First of all, if you're a non-Jew it's best to identify with neither as for non-Jews is almost always antisemitic. (And yes I mean both).
This is a one of the biggest bones of contention in the Jewish community and is absolutely a loud argument right now due to current events. Worse yet, it's generally so because of a mix of misunderstandings and extremism.
Zionism Originally this was the belief that the only way Jews could find some stability and safety would be to form a Jewish state. Once the state was formed, this turned into rabid support for Israel. For the milder of them, it basically boils down to patriotism... for the extremes it's nationalism
The loudest and most well represented of Zionists, however, believe basically that any criticism of Israel is inherently antisemitic, even by fellow Jews. (How can this be antisemitic for non-jews? Short answer without derailing: Nazis are often Zionist)
Anti-Zionism Originally this was opposition to the creation of modern Israel, though each person had their own wildly varying reasons.
After the creation, many Anti-Zionists became Zionists. For the rest it mostly transformed into minimizing and addressing the damages caused by the creation of the state (ie. the occupation of Palestine). Many do dream of the potential of dismantling the state, but don't see it as feasible because creating a new humanitarian crisis to solve another isn't an acceptable solution.
They're generally painted by Zionists as if they want to abruptly end the state without addressing the crisis it would cause. (As such even mild Zionists often believe Anti-Zionism to be inherently antisemitic)
(Non-Jews can criticize Israel, but being/identifying-as Anti-Zionist is pretty much reserved for Jews; the exception being victims of Israel)
@witewulf Okay, TLDR: anti-zionism has been co-opted by fucking Nazis. But among Jews it's specifically about opposition to an imperialist, colonialist ideology that is popular among right-wing Jews (notably the current government of Israel).
@witewulf You pretty much nailed it, though! All I'd add is that zionism started out in the late 19th century as yet another component of the general European wave of ethno-nationalism that birthed Italy and Germany as well as the Balkan states, and broke up the Austro-Hungarian Empire: everyone else got a homeland, so why not the Jews? But then WW1 and the Balfour Declaration happened, and it turned from aspirational into a tool of oil imperialism.
@cstross I heard someone (who I don’t normally consider to be raving lunatic) recently express the opinion that the only way to solve the Zionism problem was to expel all the white, European Jews from Israel and only allow the “real” pure Jews with brown skin to live there. I got out of that conversation pretty quickly 😳
@witewulf That's exactly as insane as suggesting a solution to the "Irish problem" by expelling all the "Brit" settlers and keeping the island for the pure Irish.
@cstross I think their angle was that the right-wing politics of modern-day Israel is mostly coming from people who have “returned” to Israel post ‘48, rather than those who have lived there for millennia. I thought it unhelpful, inflammatory, ill-informed and racist, though.
@Charlie Stross @Gary Oh, I mentioned that in my answer below about how Nazis are often Zionist, it's called "Blood and Soil" (also included a fun american fact on it too)
@cstross thanks (both of you), that makes a bit more sense. I’m still wholly unqualified to share my own opinion on the matter, although the emotions the current situation stirs makes that harder every day.
@cstross @witewulf Hard not to note that German, Italian, and various Balkan nationalisms were also terrible fucking ideas that killed tremendous amounts of people. Kind of feels like nationalism as an ideology was a terrible, murderous mistake in general.
it's often a mistake, but there are notable exceptions: ridiculous to see Ireland being better off as part of the UK at this point, Czechia and Slovakia splitting worked out fine, and so on. The problem is demagogues frequently use it to encourage their followers to beat up the neighbours (to divert attention from their own failures).
@Gary @Charlie Stross (it's rarely used, but I think /srs is the punctuation to indicate seriousness, much like /s is sarcasm)
As far as answering that, it's a bit meatier which is why I chose not to include it in the original to avoid completely derailing.
Some of the common antisemitic reasonings behind goy "zionism":
Naziism - At the least in classic Nazi ideology, but still often present in modern Naziism and white supremacy in general, there's the idea of "Blood and Soil".
It's the belief that each "race" has rights to a certain land. The Nazis of Germany believed it was Aryans to Europe. As such those following "Blood and Soil" believe that the Jewish people have ultimate right to the land of Israel (as in they would fully endorse us launching a full fledged holocaust against non-Jews there). (I'll note that as always Nazis and white supremacists are always hypocrites. Side note this is the reason why many americans claim a distant "cherokee princess" relative, because it was a way for Blood and Soil Nazis to justify their supremacy in America)
Christian Antisemitism - Many Christians support Israel existing purely because they believe it coincides with prophecies with the end times. Short gist is that it amounts to the Jews in Israel will basically be forced to convert or die when Jesus returns. There's no basis in respect for Jews, just viewing us as essentially tools for their beliefs.
@cstross @witewulf Is there then an acceptable phrase for us non Jews to use to signify our opposition to an imperialist, colonialist ideology that is popular among right-wing Jews (notably the current government of Israel)? OP seems to rule out 'anti-Zionist.'
@jimkennedy @cstross I was wondering the same thing. The safe answer is “no, stay in your lane”, but when we avoid talking about something because it may offend one or more parties it’s tantamount to brushing it under the carpet and pretending it’s not happening.
@Gary @Charlie Stross @jimkennedy To be clear, I fully endorse calling Israel on it's bullshit. It's mostly just don't use the "Anti-Zionist" identity while doing so. Absolutely 110% encourage saying "Those Are Fucking War Crimes?! Why Are We Sitting By And Allowing This To Happen!?!"
@witewulf @cstross This is my worry - the 'it's complicated so just drop the conversation' tone policing I've seen elsewhere, which is designed to make everyone look away during a genocide. (Absolutely not the case with the OP, as I see from scrolling her timeline)
@witewulf @cstross Opinionated is good (in my strongly held opinion) as long as you're prepared to back up your opinions! Shitty things are allowed to happen in the world in part because so many refuse to have any opinion at all.
@witewulf @cstross @jimkennedy Almost too broad. I used to, before October 7, call myself anti-zionist, but it’s so fraught now, I prefer non-zionist. But anti-imperialist. Yeah.
If you're specific to Israel it's impossible to divorce yourself from the antisemites without being a Jew. So the only real alternative is to call out the behavior.
It also addresses hypocrisy because many will call out Israel on it's bullshit, but completely ignore it when other countries do it.
@Gary @Charlie Stross I'm happy to answer questions. This is mostly adjacent to the current conflict, but more about how it overflows into conversations around Judaism in general.
There's a general assumption that Zionism = Pro-Judaism and Anti-Zionism being just a synonym for Anti-Semitism, and this assumption exists even in Jewish spaces so it's especially heated right now.
1/2 @shiri Yeah this is really f’d up. ANY state based on religious and cultural identity is fundamentally exclusionary. The idea that THIS place is for US means the OTHER can not have equal civil rights. This is literally the argument used by David Duke that the KKK was not racist because their views where that races should not mix. There should be a separate sovereign place exclusively for white christians. And yes, thats f’d up
2/2 @shiri so the only difference between Zionism and David Duke is which exclusionary cultural and religious group we are talking about, jewish people or white christians. The idea that this is the only way jewish people can have peace and security assumes every other state likewise only guarantees civil rights for specific cultural groups . The right solution is every state should guarantee equal civil rights for all citizens, which is in the US constitution
As a Jew, I usually just say that I'm not a Zionist, because a focus on what Israel does is not central to my identity. I think it's fine for non-Jewish anarchists to say that they are anti-Zionist, though, because they are consistently against all states and all state ideologies.
People aren't going to get "Nazis are often Zionist" without more explanation. Better you than I.
@Gary @Charlie Stross (it's rarely used, but I think /srs is the punctuation to indicate seriousness, much like /s is sarcasm)
As far as answering that, it's a bit meatier which is why I chose not to include it in the original to avoid completely derailing.
Some of the common antisemitic reasonings behind goy "zionism":
Naziism - At the least in classic Nazi ideology, but still often present in modern Naziism and white supremacy in general, there's the idea of "Blood and Soil".
It's the belief that each "race" has rights to a certain land. The Nazis of Germany believed it was Aryans to Europe. As such those following "Blood and Soil" believe that the Jewish people have ultimate right to the land of Israel (as in they would fully endorse us launching a full fledged holocaust against non-Jews there). (I'll note that as always Nazis and white supremacists are always hypocrites. Side note this is the reason why many americans claim a distant "cherokee princess" relative, because it was a way for Blood and Soil Nazis to justify their supremacy in America)
Christian Antisemitism - Many Christians support Israel existing purely because they believe it coincides with prophecies with the end times. Short gist is that it amounts to the Jews in Israel will basically be forced to convert or die when Jesus returns. There's no basis in respect for Jews, just viewing us as essentially tools for their beliefs.
I would argue that if you believe that Israel should become a "state for all of its citizens" instead of "the state of the Jewish people", and include both Arabs and Jews as equal citizens, then you are an anti-Zionist. You don't need to call for the ethnic cleansing of Jews in Israel/Palestine to be an anti-Zionist. You just have to reject territorial expansionism, settler colonialism, and "Blood and Soil".
I consider myself anti-Zionist and believe the idea of an ethnonationalist settler colony to be absolutely ridiculous to me, regardless of where it is. I am also Jewish so there's that.
@Shiri Bailem I'm definitely an anti-zionist. Jews and Arabs and everyone else who calls that area of the globe home should be equally free to live their lives without oppression etc. Civilians don't belong in military prisons even if they are Palestinian. Etc, etc.
Dear lord I can't win lately... NAS went down and I basically had to kick it to get it back up, likely related to a dead disk...
Here's the tally of my environment: * 2 Proxmox servers - 1 server failed, I need to send it in for a refund under the protection plan - I bought a server to replace it already... that server came with a busted ram slot meaning it's already on degraded performance (need to refund it, but want to get a replacement before I send it off...)
1 old desktop running as a NAS
1 hard drive is throwing non-critical block errors, threatening to fail... I got the warranty exchange set up already but...
1 hard drive failed entirely after setting up that warranty exchange and now I don't have the parity to spare a drive, so I need to spare drives before I can start exchanging drives (those drives should arrive on Saturday)
And in all of this... spending way too much money I really shouldn't be spending at all...
And before someone thinks I'm throwing around a few K here... everything I'm getting is renewed, which is probably part of the problem but I sure as hell can't afford new. (Proxmox servers are around $100 each, drives around $45 each)
Oh, and the NAS going down is critical because those $100 boxes (a) don't have enough disk space for everything and (b) it's how I'm maintaining the ability to high(-ish) availability transfer between the two nodes (this saved me when the one proxmox system died).
Those are tiny form factor systems, but they have room for a second hard drive. I need to get a couple of hard drives to drop into them so they have better local storage, afterwards I can set them up as ZFS and use proxmox's features to sync the drives between the two nodes... that way they're not relying on the nas for anything that's not just large.
You want to know how to leave me completely dumbfounded?
Go on a christofascist rant in someone's comments, spout completely bullshit for _hours_ and then... practically out of nowhere... acknowledge your poor behavior and apologize.
... it's going to take me a looooooong time to process this.
You ever want to see how razor thin support and inclusivity is?
Tell people you're a Jew and hate "Happy Holidays" and "Season's Greetings" because they're faux inclusivity.
People come out of the woodwork that would normally say they're allies to tell you that the harms you experience aren't real, or that the fact that others like it means the harms you experience don't matter.
Let alone the people who don't remotely read said posts before replying...
@Cass M 🇨🇦 :mstdn: far less really, people get this way because they think they're being inclusive and nothing makes people defensive like "I appreciate the thought but you're not doing what you think you're doing"
@Cass M 🇨🇦 :mstdn: oh wow I was out of sorts when I replied the first time, I completely blazed past calling out that "Judeo-Christian" is antisemitic:
Edit because this blew up far more than I expected and multiple people have asked for me to elaborate, here's a copy of my elaboration with follow up questions encouraged:
It's a messy topic and it's late here (I'm a bit sleepy), so feel free to ask follow up questions.
The short version of it is that Judeo-Christian is almost always used in one of two harmful ways:
1) To try and give more credibility and weight to something that is purely Christian by claiming that it's part of Judaism as well when it's not (like the above example, because Judaism explicitly permits abortions) 2) To try and talk about broader groupings of related faiths while ignoring the many other Abrahamic faiths (the proper term, though that one more often hurts the lesser known groups, don't use it unless you also know it applies to groups like the Baháʼí, which I'll admit even I know next to nothing about, but it's valid here because all I'm doing is naming their religious family)
Because many (cough most cough) teach a bastardized form of Judaism through the lens of Christianity, and because that's the only exposure many get to our faith... they get skewed harmful and hurtful ideas about us.
Some highlight examples: * We don't have an established afterlife (we don't say there isn't one, we just have zero information on it if there is) * We don't seek "eternal reward", the reward for our faith is being a better person than we were the day before * We have forgiveness baked into our faith, and no it doesn't require animal sacrifice (it requires you to actually ask the person you wronged...) * We thoroughly encourage arguing any topic with anyone (right time and place of course), and that includes picking a fight with God if you think they're wrong about something (you have a 99.9% chance of being wrong... but we commend the effort and every once in a while someone wins the argument) * We have a rule, Pikuach Nefesh, roughly meaning that life is the highest commandment. Your well being takes precedence over your faith, if it would hurt you or others to be observant than you are exempt from that requirement. It's unacceptable to hurt others for your faith, and for yourself it's frowned upon * We actively discourage conversion, it's allowed but it's not a trivial process. We don't want people to become Jews, we just want people to be better.
The biggest thing for me with some of the eat the rich posts I've seen lately, especially those talking about Taylor Swift, is basing judgement off of a net worth score.
(I'm no fan of Taylor Swift, I just know that she barely notched over and only on net worth... which is a junk number, basically a fancy guess how much them and everything they own would sell for, including things like song rights, likeness, etc)
I'll especially note that I don't think any artist really comes close to billionaire earnings without other businesses that are bigger than their art.
Useful reference: * Highest Paid Actor (in a year) - Most years this floats just under $80 million, some rare extreme years see around $200 million * Highest Paid Musician (in a year) - this jumps around alot but in 2022 it was $210 million and peaked in 2014 with Dr Dre at $620 million (next highest was Bruce Springsteen in 2021 for $435 million)
Important note not being a billionaire doesn't mean they can't be exploiting, just that billionaires are guaranteed to be intentionally exploiting.
In the case of artists, they have very little control over most of the things. Actors are contractors with little to no employees and no control over the pay of anyone else. Musicians are tied up in contracts and have a limited list of employees (ie. background dancers), and generally are just hiring venues (the venue provides almost all the workers, and they pretty much all suck of course).
The worst thing about subtitled anime... is that you occasionally forget that you can't understand them, get distracted by something else and then realize you didn't catch anything that happened over the past 5 minutes...
![Screenshot of a Tweet from Rabbit Cohen @[url=https://mastodon.online/users/BathysphereHat]Rabbit Cohen[/url] reading: Abortion bans are not "Judeo-Christian". They are ChristoFascist. Get "Judeo" out of your mouth.](https://foggyminds.com/photo/388477810964c4a3b847e0a701013240-1.jpg "Screenshot of a Tweet from Rabbit Cohen @[url=https://mastodon.online/users/BathysphereHat]Rabbit Cohen[/url] reading: Abortion bans are not \"Judeo-Christian\". They are ChristoFascist. Get \"Judeo\" out of your mouth.")
Shiri Bailem
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@Lolita as far as I'm aware there's no user level language option, it can only be set for the server.
So for a different language interface you have to find a server in that language.
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you can add
?lang=ento the url which will temporarily switch the displayed language.Example:
https://friendica.opensocial.space/?lang=enfor englishhttps://friendica.opensocial.space/?lang=defor germanShiri Bailem likes this.
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