Getting tired of people pretending Jews can't possibly know the difference between Holocaust and "run of the mill" genocide (both are bad, one just is much more orchestrated).
But why should I be surprised? The pajamafication of the holocaust means most people don't even understand a damn thing about it anyways.
I'm so incredibly done with people being on a high-horse shitting on advances in AI for no other reason than to feel better about themselves.
Like if your issue is things like copyright and training data? Sure, go off, it's a philosophical argument there about rights, economy, etc. Likewise for arguments about ecological impact (it can be made reasonable there, the companies just don't want to).
But if you're just posting bullshit like "Hahaha, the language model can't do math" or "Look at how it was baited into saying something stupid" as proof that it's worthless: go fuck yourself.
Let alone the people who try to relate AI development to "NFT Bros"... NFTs literally don't do shit, AI actually has multiple proven and valid uses cases but if you think it's the same thing that just shows you have your head up your ass and refuse to look at the world around you.
All of that before getting to the fact that they have shown incredible usefulness for disability accommodations, but I guess it doesn't count if you prefer to be ableist and think we don't need or deserve accommodations?
So tired of people in general right now...
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@Charline yeah, these databases get huge and it becomes a lot harder to restore. a month or two ago I lost a few days to a database crash, this morning's database backup was 4GB. It takes like half an hour to start the database if it's not a clean shutdown (and about as much time to cleanly shut down).
It's kinda a nightmare lol
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Seriously, if you're not in the US it's important to recognize how catastrophically fucked everything is. Like I actively need to flee the country bad...
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Yeah. Like, if you feel so powerless or hopeless that your impulse is to flee, why not take a chance at redirecting that energy. Point it toward a problem that needs doing.
You can do whatever you want. That's what it means to be free. You can be whoever you want to be, that's the meaning of liberty. If you don't have any ideas, come to me and I'll lend you a hand.
@Ritz-Menardi ... yeah, I'm talking about imminent threat of the loss of freedom for existing.
I'm disabled, I can't do shit, communication and education is all I can offer and I'm doing all I can there.
I'm dependent on others even for my ability to flee...
This is like Germany just before the Holocaust, telling Jews (of which I am also) to fight isn't a great idea at that time.
Disability makes everything more difficult. I get it.
Communication and education are important.
You should do what your heart tells you to do.
@Ritz-Menardi and to be clear, it's not an impulse to flee... it's complete terror because I see the writing on the wall for Hitler 2.0 and it's going to get really really bad before it gets better and if I stick around I'm very unlikely to survive.
Pikuach nefesh, my first duty is to stay alive.
I know. Keep in mind, though, that the propagandic writing-on-the-wall cuts both ways. There are many more of us, than of them.
your first duty is to stay alive. plus, what you can do, you can do from anywhere, so long as the internet remains true. alas, has it ever been? but still it's up to you, what to do. no matter where you are, you'll find friends who will need your heart, your words, your kindness, and whatever other aid you may give.
I'm trans and relatively healthy and strong. in my legs at least. so my choice is a bit different than yours, mine becomes "die now, that others might live or die later, that others might die before me" and frankly that's not a choice at all.
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An anime I'm watching has a love triangle and then actually had someone say "have you considered polyamory?" (paraphrased)
另类右翼、另类lite、另类左翼中的“另类”是什么？关于作为政治能指的“另类”
原文：https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/00323217221150871
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What Was the ‘Alt’ in Alt-Right, Alt-Lite, and Alt-Left? On ‘Alt’ as a Political Modifier
另类右翼、另类lite、另类左翼中的“另类”是什么？关于作为政治能指的“另类”
“另类”修饰语最好被理解为是关于政治该怎样进行的偏好的能指。“另类”主要被用来标示其与主流在遵守政治行为规范方面的决裂：也就是拒绝“礼貌”，拥抱下流、尖锐的“幽默”，对政治对手采用对抗的、经常是故意冒犯的方式。
在“另类右翼”一词被谁创造、何时出现的问题上存在着分歧。一些记述将其追溯到2008年11月，旧保守派人物Paul Gottfried在极右翼H.L. Mencken Club发布的演讲，《另类右翼的衰弱与崛起》。其它描述则认为是Richard Spencer创造了这个术语，Spencer本人也认为如此。2010年时Spencer用这个术语作为网站的域名，当时这个网站在语气上还偏好严肃、理智主义、受人尊敬的形象。后来他表示嫌这个词消极且相对主义，而且不想把自己的主意根基于传统左右划分。
尽管Spencer放弃了这个术语，接下来这个词继续偶尔出现在Reddit、4Chan等地方。在2015年，它出人意料地在社媒上爆发。这和早期的“另类右翼”之间存在着核心区别，早期的核心是Spencer，后期“另类右翼”的核心则是各种网络名人，而且没有披上体面、理智主义的外衣，拥抱网络巨魔文化的讽刺、挖苦、堕落幽默感，不像早期的“另类右翼”一样在伪知识分子网站上发布冗长严肃的文章，而是通过“政治正确”和故意冒犯模因来交流。另类右翼的顶峰是川普竞选时期。
Alt-lite（或Alt-light）则是另类右翼用来贬义地描述那些同情，或者与另类右翼有联系，但不表明民族主义或反犹观点的人。他们在仇恨女性主义者、移民等方面与另类右翼一致。他们会使用“言论自由”、“政治正确”等方式，声称自己的批评者过度敏感、不懂幽默，他们有更广泛的媒体影响力与更复杂的策略。它通常不是一个独立的运动，而是在另类右翼的旗下。
另类左翼则是个用来攻击的术语，试图通过声称左翼中也有同样糟糕的、极端主义的群体来攻击左翼。它由特朗普的随口一说和随后几天极右翼网站的专栏开始。最开始只是一种模糊的、哪里都可以用的攻击，后来采用了一种政治马蹄理论的现代版本，再后来用来指一些同样具有讽刺语气、频繁使用模因、反对任何不以阶级为中心的“身份政治”的左翼网络媒体。基本没有人用这个标签来描述自己，几乎是用来攻击一个不存在的运动。后来似乎几乎没什么人使用了。
对于liberals和中间派来说，另类右翼和另类左翼所蕴含的道德等价使他们能够把自己包装为进步政治价值真正的火炬手，不单单能对抗另类右翼，还能对抗另类左翼所谓的性别歧视、种族主义、年龄歧视和在身份政治上的装聋作哑。另外，这种一边是另类左翼，一边是另类右翼的二分框架使得liberals和中间派能够声称：
他们被夹在两种隐秘地有许多共同点的狂热分子之间。这将他们的自由主义，可能还包括一些“温和的共和党人”，的独特品牌，打造为唯一合理的立场，而且是被另类们围攻的那种。
liberals和中间派因此能够将自己描绘为政治房间里唯一的明智成年人。
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Unknown parent • •@anubis2814 ... did you even read the post?
Shiri Bailem
in reply to Shiri Bailem • •@anubis2814 The core issue is that they're trying to cram it in everywhere for fear of being left behind on the "next big thing" and they all insist on using the absolute highest performance, latest, and most powerful AIs for everything.
I can run a reasonable model for most use cases offline on my phone, spinning it up just as needed (ironically my phone is more powerful in this regards than my desktop... so I'm stuck with online models there, but even then I typically use the lower power models)
Air Quotes Comedian
in reply to Shiri Bailem • • •I have an .mp3 of my voice saying things I never said because I fed about 12 minutes of my voice into a cloud based software that can do that extremely well.
I can see all sorts of applications for this, purely for comedy purposes but doubt I will use it for anything (speech synthesizer will do for what I need).
I was taken aback by this episode though. It was my voice (well, one of them) and hearing it from something else was odd.
Shiri Bailem
in reply to Air Quotes Comedian • •@Air Quotes Comedian oh yeah, as much as it has potential for good it's also a hell of a lot of potential for absolutely terrifying as well.
Another problem with the bulk of "Anti-AI" crowds is that they drown out the real problems and lash out at anyone trying to fix them.
Air Quotes Comedian
in reply to Shiri Bailem • • •There is an awful lot of bullshit and nonsense surrounding the subject.
My interaction with AI has been quite limited. If I feel a YouTube video is read by AI or generated by such then I click off, and I find the constant chat bots in the corners of commercial websites to be unwelcome (or if you get one on the telephone).
As with anything you're going to get a mountain of shit (a content avalanche that will render the internet useless if the pundits are to be believed) but I'm impressed by its capabilities.
I mean, relatively impressed.
The most impressive thing computer related thing I've ever seen was in the 80's where I saw an Acorn Archimedes playing video footage of a race car event.
Blew my mind.
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in reply to Air Quotes Comedian • •@Air Quotes Comedian Yeah, bulk of the places I've seen it have been misplaced and majority of them I could have told people how it'd go before they even started...
Chat Bots in the corners of commercial websites are going to fall apart as they increasingly realize that it'll say shit that they're now liable for. The god forsaken AI voiceover videos and content farms, every one of which is truly awful and I wonder how they're even seeing returns on it in the first place. And don't even get me started on Google's "Let's cram an AI answer into search results randomly because there's no way it will say awful shit that people will take at face value".
I've mostly used it for skimming on my behalf (I use big-agi.com for that especially, but in general for most of my AI uses), code assistance, and the occasional editing.
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in reply to Shiri Bailem • • •> "Hahaha, the language model can't do math"
People don't say that, they say haha the **AI** can't do math.
This problem stems from the LLM owners/developers themselves, by calling their product "AI" -- Artificial *Intelligence* -- instead of just LLM, or "Language generator" or something similar, thus creating the expectation that it actually can think, reason, or compute things instead of just generating plausible-sounding text responses to prompts.
And that choice was apparently deliberate on their part, to hype up the product. IOW, don't advertise or imply with misleading buzzwords that your product can do things it can't and then get upset when people mock it for not being able to do what you wanted them to believe it can do.
Shiri Bailem
in reply to Lea • •@Lea or maybe just people always had a wrong idea of what early AI would look like?
People just expected it to jump out fully formed as a super-genius rather than baby steps of abilities...
Lea
in reply to Shiri Bailem • • •Maybe, but only because they were taught to by its creators.
Before "generative AI" (creation of new images and text) came out, AI was associated more with things like detecting possible cancer in medical scans, exoplanets in telescope images, recognizing/describing objects in images, finding the structure of proteins, searching for possible new medicines, etc. (not to mention military applications
).
So as I recall it was looked upon as something to help humans solve problems, having great potential in spite of some negative early experiences with things like automatic stock trading.
So IMO these new generative applications should never have been called "AI" because they are not. Even using terms like saying they were "trained" or "learned" from existing art and texts implies intelligent reasoning which is misleading.
Rather, it was the developers who learned how to make their statistical algorithms better able to extract, recombine, and generate similar, plausible-looking (but not true or accurate) output from the mass of data they collected.
IOW, it's those pre-existing AI applications that can at least on some level be said to have been "trained" and to have "learned" to recognize specific kinds of patterns in visual/spatial/textual data and mark it for *humans* to then interpret and judge for accuracy. And certainly not to make up new stuff.
Making up new stuff should be for entertainment purposes only.
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in reply to Lea • •@Lea yeah, that's a fundamental misunderstanding of how these came to be... your examples of non-generative AI are all the same basic technology. In crude terms it's an image enhancement/recognition ai run in reverse. (Then LLMs were cutting out the image part)
Their training process is nearly identical in fact.
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in reply to Shiri Bailem • • •My point is that it's the generative aspect that is the most fundamental and important difference, and that, along with allowing decision-making (as in the stock market example) is where the harm arises.
I haven't seen anything beneficial from generative models, other than as I said before, entertainment, or perhaps some strictly personal use that is not ever disseminated to others.
Generating anything with it for any serious purpose is harmful and with no positive benefit (unless you consider deep fake propaganda a "benefit").
Using it for research papers, legal briefs, class assignments, fake photos, etc. is harmful for so many reasons I don't have room to state them all here.
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in reply to Lea • •@Lea I've seen a whole bunch of practical beneficial uses:
Yes, there are plenty of harmful uses, but if you don't see positive uses you're not looking at all.
There's also the upcoming uses that are still being ironed out but inevitable (as in these aren't just hypotheticals, it's just down to predictable progress):
* Dynamic dialogue in games: tech demos of this have been pretty cool, it's not there to replace writers but to allow NPCs to fluidly talk back to anything rather than purely scripted responses)
* Virtual assistants: you may or may not like them, but many people do like them and being able to handle fluid natural language is a huge step compared to before.
I'm not going to pretend that image generators have much use at the moment, there's technologies that come later that they lead to that can be useful (like dynamic generation of 3d models and environments, which can be good progress towards the goal of "holodecks" in the sense of being able to dynamically call up desired environments then tweaking them to be what you need).
Voice generators right now mostly are just good for nice computer voices and maybe in the future being used to splice in dynamic content (such as player character name) into games (right now games either avoid saying your name entirely, use a stand-in name, and/or have a handful of pre-recorded names that are really cool if they happen to be on the list)
Lea
in reply to Shiri Bailem • • •I do admit there may be some beneficial uses of generative not-AI that I haven't been able to think of, or might be someday. Meanwhile the internet is being flooded with generated false or meaningless "content" that is in turn being re-ingested as fodder for even more of the same.
Other than coding assistant, most of your examples sound more like analysis (which is fine) than generation of new content (not fine):
- analyzing human-written prose and flagging possible tone or phrasing problems = analytical. Suggesting replacement text is generative but untrustworthy. You have to check that it isn't saying something you didn't mean to say, then trust that it's an improvement.
- summarizing reviews = analyzing: compiling stats in categories of what the reviews say. Not generating reviews or anything new.
- coding assistant: This *is* generating something: garbage. I've played with it and never gotten anything useful. It can only handle coding problems that have already been solved and included in the training data. Anything requiring it to actually solve a problem not already in its store of code fails. There's no logic or reasoning (as you've already pointed out), which would be required to do that. The main problem I found was it would call functions that don't even exist in the language--I assume it finds people's custom functions scraped from somewhere and just uses those function names as if they were built-in functions in the language.
Shiri Bailem
in reply to Lea • •@Lea I think you're quibbling over the term "generative" there, a non-generative version would be outputting just variables rather than raw text. Ie. non-generative analysis is just going to be "x% confident, x% aggressive, x% sympathetic..."
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Unknown parent • •@Lea like I said, you're attacking the definition of generative by ignoring the actual definition.
And I'm done with this conversation since all you're doing is looping back on points I've already called out. You've been an ass, just accept it and move on.