You mention Tumblr and Bluesky addons? How or where does one start?
Thanks for the kind feedback! Very curious now.
To explain better:
1. New-ish to the Fediverse, but complete noob with Friendica (+ Hubzilla).
2. Looking for a "central hub" to interact from to the AT fediverse. Is this what is called a "nomadic ID?" Was told Friendica and Hubzilla are the best for this but HZ makes no sense at all...?
3. Don't want to have an account for every Fediverse-tool / software, but finding it might be needed, as they don't all ecessarily interact well with one another.
@Plastic Frog @Shiri Bailem Hubzilla has nomadic ID, that is where you can seamlessly move all of your information over to other instances/cloning. Friendica just requires you provider to install the bluesky addon. Go to setting> social networks. You will see the bluesky option. Put in your bluesky and password and other setting and now you never have to log into bluesky and it all comes through your friendica account. Twitter used to have that option, I rarely logged into twitter, but Musk broke the API. I would do that for bluesky but I have yet to have a reason to join it.
@Plastic Frog @anubis2814eventually that add-on will turn into full AT support, plus there is at least one person building an AP/AT bridge as well (which allows the two to talk without the servers having to understand the other protocol).
As far as Tumblr it's the same method as Bluesky, though you can follow Tumblr feeds without a Tumblr account, having the account lets you comment and have some/all your posts mirror to your Tumblr account.
In the same area you see options for all the other platforms I've enabled plugins for (the others I haven't enabled are just because they haven't come up... not that most of those have come up either)
Most of the time you're talking about platforms that share the ActivityPub protocol (shortened to AP), everything that uses AP can talk to everything else that uses AP (ie. Mastodon, Lemmy, Friendica, Threads).
Bluesky is starting up their own protocol, AT (I forget what it's short for). So it can't talk to anything that's AP and vice versa, at least not without some sort of translation layer inbetween.
Right now the Bluesky addon is a "puppet" addon, meaning it just mirrors and controls a separate Bluesky account... Friendica plans to incorporate AT support more directly which would remove that step. Also, there's things like bridgeyfed that are making bridges. A bridge sits on two networks and translates calls between two protocols (ie. an AP server asks it for posts from an AT user, it just sees the bridge as an instance with that user on it)
The biggest reason to have multiple accounts is just for different experiences. Ie. Friendica (Facebook/Myspace style) is very different from say Pixelfed (Instagram style experience) and Lemmy (Reddit style experience)
@shiri thanks so much for the detailed explanation.
Yes, read about the AP / AT protocols before and that there is some poor guy under fire now for trying to bridge the two, though it’s probably inevitable either way. (BridgyFed?)
Basically just curious to see the smaller abilities and limitations between all the Fediverse tools out there.
Have written a post just now with a table. Just a very basic test, but after many hours of back and forth between the different tools, a pattern emerged.
Using different tools for different uses makes sense, like photos or videos or threads, music, etc.
Though very little posting anywhere is done from this side. Just want to be able to follow, like and comment.
So thought maybe there is something like that, and Friendica / Mastodon and others work fine for that with posts and media.
It’s the aggregators that become an issue when following from a different tool.
Shiri Bailem
in reply to Plastic Frog • •@Plastic Frog all of those use AP so there should be negligible issues.
The fun ones are things like setting up the Tumblr or Bluesky addons!
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in reply to Shiri Bailem • •@Shiri Bailem @anubis2814
You mention Tumblr and Bluesky addons? How or where does one start?
Thanks for the kind feedback! Very curious now.
To explain better:
1. New-ish to the Fediverse, but complete noob with Friendica (+ Hubzilla).
2. Looking for a "central hub" to interact from to the AT fediverse. Is this what is called a "nomadic ID?" Was told Friendica and Hubzilla are the best for this but HZ makes no sense at all...?
3. Don't want to have an account for every Fediverse-tool / software, but finding it might be needed, as they don't all ecessarily interact well with one another.
anubis2814
in reply to Plastic Frog • • •Go to setting> social networks. You will see the bluesky option. Put in your bluesky and password and other setting and now you never have to log into bluesky and it all comes through your friendica account. Twitter used to have that option, I rarely logged into twitter, but Musk broke the API. I would do that for bluesky but I have yet to have a reason to join it.
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in reply to anubis2814 • •@anubis2814 @Shiri Bailem
Greatness, thanks for the tip! Set it up now, but will have to test and see how and where it comes through on Friendica.
Shiri Bailem
in reply to Plastic Frog • •@Plastic Frog @anubis2814 eventually that add-on will turn into full AT support, plus there is at least one person building an AP/AT bridge as well (which allows the two to talk without the servers having to understand the other protocol).
As far as Tumblr it's the same method as Bluesky, though you can follow Tumblr feeds without a Tumblr account, having the account lets you comment and have some/all your posts mirror to your Tumblr account.
In the same area you see options for all the other platforms I've enabled plugins for (the others I haven't enabled are just because they haven't come up... not that most of those have come up either)
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in reply to Shiri Bailem • •@anubis2814 @Plastic Frog As far as the fediverse as a whole:
Most of the time you're talking about platforms that share the ActivityPub protocol (shortened to AP), everything that uses AP can talk to everything else that uses AP (ie. Mastodon, Lemmy, Friendica, Threads).
Bluesky is starting up their own protocol, AT (I forget what it's short for). So it can't talk to anything that's AP and vice versa, at least not without some sort of translation layer inbetween.
Right now the Bluesky addon is a "puppet" addon, meaning it just mirrors and controls a separate Bluesky account... Friendica plans to incorporate AT support more directly which would remove that step. Also, there's things like bridgeyfed that are making bridges. A bridge sits on two networks and translates calls between two protocols (ie. an AP server asks it for posts from an AT user, it just sees the bridge as an instance with that user on it)
The biggest reason to have multiple accounts is just for different experiences. Ie. Friendica (Facebook/Myspace style) is very different from say Pixelfed (Instagram style experience) and Lemmy (Reddit style experience)
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in reply to Shiri Bailem • •@shiri thanks so much for the detailed explanation.
Yes, read about the AP / AT protocols before and that there is some poor guy under fire now for trying to bridge the two, though it’s probably inevitable either way. (BridgyFed?)
Basically just curious to see the smaller abilities and limitations between all the Fediverse tools out there.
Have written a post just now with a table. Just a very basic test, but after many hours of back and forth between the different tools, a pattern emerged.
Using different tools for different uses makes sense, like photos or videos or threads, music, etc.
Though very little posting anywhere is done from this side. Just want to be able to follow, like and comment.
So thought maybe there is something like that, and Friendica / Mastodon and others work fine for that with posts and media.
It’s the aggregators that become an issue when following from a different tool.
anubis2814
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> test commenting from Friendica