Werewolves can't exist. There'd be detailed records in the archives. They couldn't possibly evade detection by the state for any significant period. @floppy
"Don't be silly, Bob," said Mo: "everybody knows vampires don't exist!"
(There then follows a 120,000 word novel about vampires, culminating in a boss fight between type specimens drawn from three different vampire myths: and the post-Dracula fang fucker is the one who ends up jumping out the window and running naked and screaming into the dawn to escape the other two.)
Guillermo de la Cruz is the bodyguard and former familiar of Nandor the Relentless. He is a main character in the What We Do in the Shadows TV series. Guillermo is Nandor’s human familiar and has wanted to be a vampire since he was a kid.
@ersatzmaus @dianaprobst IIRC, the cleaning product brand itself changed its name from "jiff" to "cif" precisely because it was pronounced "yiff" in most non-anglo languages.
@stavvers @dianaprobst IIRC It was something like “'j' is pronounced inconsistently. Let's pick another letter, one with consistent pronunciation.” ”How about 'c'?” “Can't see any problems with that. Make it so.”
Furries turn disaffection into community, mostly by yeeting shame.
Goths are into constructive dignitas under local rules. It'll sometimes turn into general gravitas. Vampires have both dignitas and gravitas inherently because predator.
The parallel would imply that werewolf social structures Just Work, despite werewolves as individuals. No Tormented Conflict of Nature between man and wolf; it's some third thing immune to all forms of social insecurity with low internal conflict.
Speaking as a therian, yes, those of us who identify as "were" (a spiritual/psychological thing, vs. people who believe they actually transform into animals), I've had this conversation so many times that it feels like Groundhog Day. A fellow werebear once described furry as being like "a trip to Disneyland." There's a lot of overlap, but therians tend to be about "big ideas” like….
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in reply to James Smith 💾 • • •@Floppy There are no werewolves in the Laundry universe ...
… Yet.
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in reply to Shiri Bailem • • •Vampires? Don't be ridiculous, of course we'd know about vampires.
@cstross @floppy
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Charlie Stross
in reply to FeralRobots • • •BTDT. To quote the opening of "The Rhesus Chart":
"Don't be silly, Bob," said Mo: "everybody knows vampires don't exist!"
(There then follows a 120,000 word novel about vampires, culminating in a boss fight between type specimens drawn from three different vampire myths: and the post-Dracula fang fucker is the one who ends up jumping out the window and running naked and screaming into the dawn to escape the other two.)
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in reply to Charlie Stross • • •I never thought about it that way... but what an interesting thought.
I guess it depends on what type of furry
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in reply to Charlie Stross • • •Guillermo de la Cruz
What We Do in the Shadows WikiAlan Bellingham
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •@jollyorc A character in the US TV series What We Do In The Shadows, which is a mockumentary about a household of vampires
There are various paranormal types
It's founded on the NZ film of the same name which was set in Wellington.
Hugo Mills
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in reply to Charlie Stross • • •One of these days, I really must get round to reading those.
I suspect I'll choke on the allegory (or, as a well brought-up atheist, miss it entirely).
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Unknown parent • • •@dianaprobst @stavvers I fear my brain has gone one further, with the Yiff Lemon Party.
MAKE IT STOP! 😱
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in reply to Charlie Stross • • •Furries turn disaffection into community, mostly by yeeting shame.
Goths are into constructive dignitas under local rules. It'll sometimes turn into general gravitas. Vampires have both dignitas and gravitas inherently because predator.
The parallel would imply that werewolf social structures Just Work, despite werewolves as individuals. No Tormented Conflict of Nature between man and wolf; it's some third thing immune to all forms of social insecurity with low internal conflict.
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Graydon
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •They do!
I'm sort of riffing off your parallel construction while the morning meds kick in.
Shiri Bailem
in reply to Charlie Stross • •@Charlie Stross yes, but hear me out:
Goth Werewolves and Furry Vampires
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in reply to Charlie Stross • • •Speaking as a therian, yes, those of us who identify as "were" (a spiritual/psychological thing, vs. people who believe they actually transform into animals), I've had this conversation so many times that it feels like Groundhog Day. A fellow werebear once described furry as being like "a trip to Disneyland." There's a lot of overlap, but therians tend to be about "big ideas” like….
(Con’t.)