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Gudrun Ensslin: Without simultaneously building the Red Army, every conflict, all political work in the factories, in the Wedding and Märkische Viertel districts,** in the Plötze,*** and in the courtroom will degenerate into nothing more than reformism, which means you merely push through better means of discipline, better methods of intimidation, better methods of exploitation. All that does is break the people down. It does not break down what breaks the people down! https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7725





Eduardo Galeano: For us capitalism is not a dream to be made a reality. Our challenge lies not in privatising the state but in deprivatising it. Our states have been bought at bargain prices by the owners of the land, the banks and everything else. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7728




Fidel Castro: Without the sacrifices made by the Soviet people, fascism would have been imposed on the whole world for at least a brief period of time. Everybody would have personally learned of the horrors of fascism. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7730




Lenin: This so-called bipartisan system prevailing in America and Britain has been one of the most powerful means of preventing the rise of an independent working-class, i.e., genuinely socialist, party. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7732


Lenin: And for a whole half-century—since the Civil War over slavery in 1860–65—two bourgeois parties have been distinguished there by remarkable solidity and strength. The party of the former slave-owners is the so-called Democratic Party. The capitalist party, which favoured the emancipation of the Negroes, has developed into the Republican Party. Since the emancipation of the Negroes, the distinction between the two parties has been diminishing. The fight between these two parties has been mainly over the height of customs duties. Their fight has not had any serious importance for the mass of the people. The people have been deceived and diverted from their vital interests by means of spectacular and meaningless duels between the two bourgeois parties. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7733



Prince Philip, the Duke of Edinburgh: I would very much like to go to Russia - although the bastards murdered half my family. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7734


Eugene V. Debs: I am opposed to every war but one; I am for that war with heart and soul, and that is the world-wide war of Social Revolution. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7735


Robespierre: The secret of freedom lies in educating people, whereas the secret of tyranny is in keeping them ignorant. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7736


Yuri Gagarin: Looking at Earth from afar you realize it is too small for conflict and just big enough for cooperation. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7737


Lenin: The rule of the proletariat is expressed in the fact that landowner and capitalist property has been taken away. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7738



Kim Il Sung: It is necessary to expose the false propaganda of the imperialists and thoroughly dispel the illusion that the imperialists will give up their positions in the colonies and dependent countries with good will. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7739


Lenin: The people need peace; the people need bread; the people need land. And they give you war, hunger, no bread—leave the landlords still on the land. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7740


Lenin: But when they face the workers, our liquidators act according to the saying: A lion among the lambs becomes a lamb among the lions. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7741


Martin Luther King, Jr.: The Labour movement is the principal force that transformed misery and dispair into hope and progress. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7742




Muammar Gaddafi: They want to do to Libya what they did to Iraq and what they are itching to do to Iran. They want to take back the oil, which was nationalized by these country’s revolutions. They want to re-establish military bases that were shut down by the revolutions and to install client regimes that will subordinate the country’s wealth and labor to imperialist corporate interests. All else is lies and deception. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7744


Stalin: Some people believe that Marxism and anarchism are based on the same principles and that the disagreements between them concern only tactics, so that, in the opinion of these people, no distinction whatsoever can be drawn between these two trends. This is a great mistake. We believe that the Anarchists are real enemies of Marxism. Accordingly, we also hold that a real struggle must be waged against real enemies. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7745


Stalin: A true revolutionary is not that demonstrates value in the period of the victorious uprising, but who knows how to fight not only at the time of the victorious advance but also at the retreat of the revolution; that demonstrates value in the period of the defeat of the proletariat, which does not lose the head, which does not abandon the road when the revolution suffers a defeat and the enemy records successes; which is not dominated by panic, or falls into despair in the retreat of the revolution period. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7746


Stalin: You speak of Sinified socialism. There is nothing of the sort in nature. There is no Russian, English, French, German, Italian socialism, as much as there is no Chinese socialism. There is only one Marxist-Leninist socialism. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7747


Thomas Sankara: Imperialism is a system of exploitation that occurs not only in the brutal form of those who come with guns to conquer territory. Imperialism often occurs in more subtle forms, a loan, food aid, blackmail. We are fighting this system that allows a handful of men on Earth to rule all of humanity. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7748


Lenin: We believe that historical events should be judged by the movements of the masses and of classes as a whole, not by the moods of individuals or small groups. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7749


Mao Zedong: The ideological and social system of capitalism...resembles "a dying person who is sinking fast, like the sun setting beyond the western hills", and will soon be relegated to the museum. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7750


Bible: Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7751



Otto von Bismarck: The power of Russia can only be undermined by the separation of Ukraine from it ... it is necessary not only to tear off, but also to oppose Ukraine to Russia. To do this, you only need to find and nurture traitors among the elite and, with their help, change the self-awareness of one part of the great people to such an extent that they will hate everything Russian, hate their kind, without realizing it. Everything else is a matter of time. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7752


Stalin: The leaders come and go, but the people remain. Only the people are immortal, everything else is ephemeral. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7753


Bhagat Singh: We want a socialist revolution, the indispensable preliminary to which is the political revolution. That is what we want. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7754


You want a great debate to fall into?

Start debating someone on logical fallacies and what falls under what fallacy... the conversation is interesting to say the least lol

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Shiri Bailem

@milquetoast :milquetoast: This!

But in this case we were debating on exact definitions of appeal to authority, and it devolved a little because I gave the example "Are you a doctor? Because Dr. Phil says..." and they called it Ad Hominem...

We settled on it depends on the context of said statement, but it's ultimately appeal to authority in both cases, just in some contexts it's also ad hominem



Lenin: War is a continuation of policy by other means. All wars are inseparable from the political systems that engender them. The policy which a given state, a given class within that state, pursued for a long time before the war is inevitably continued by that same class during the war, the form of action alone being changed. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7755


Bhagat Singh: The struggle in India would continue so long as a handful of exploiters go on exploiting the labour of the common people for their own ends. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7756