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Muammar Gaddafi: They want to do to Libya what they did to Iraq and what they are itching to do to Iran. They want to take back the oil, which was nationalized by these country’s revolutions. They want to re-establish military bases that were shut down by the revolutions and to install client regimes that will subordinate the country’s wealth and labor to imperialist corporate interests. All else is lies and deception. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7744


Stalin: Some people believe that Marxism and anarchism are based on the same principles and that the disagreements between them concern only tactics, so that, in the opinion of these people, no distinction whatsoever can be drawn between these two trends. This is a great mistake. We believe that the Anarchists are real enemies of Marxism. Accordingly, we also hold that a real struggle must be waged against real enemies. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7745


Stalin: A true revolutionary is not that demonstrates value in the period of the victorious uprising, but who knows how to fight not only at the time of the victorious advance but also at the retreat of the revolution; that demonstrates value in the period of the defeat of the proletariat, which does not lose the head, which does not abandon the road when the revolution suffers a defeat and the enemy records successes; which is not dominated by panic, or falls into despair in the retreat of the revolution period. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7746


Stalin: You speak of Sinified socialism. There is nothing of the sort in nature. There is no Russian, English, French, German, Italian socialism, as much as there is no Chinese socialism. There is only one Marxist-Leninist socialism. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7747


Thomas Sankara: Imperialism is a system of exploitation that occurs not only in the brutal form of those who come with guns to conquer territory. Imperialism often occurs in more subtle forms, a loan, food aid, blackmail. We are fighting this system that allows a handful of men on Earth to rule all of humanity. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7748


Lenin: We believe that historical events should be judged by the movements of the masses and of classes as a whole, not by the moods of individuals or small groups. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7749


Mao Zedong: The ideological and social system of capitalism...resembles "a dying person who is sinking fast, like the sun setting beyond the western hills", and will soon be relegated to the museum. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7750


Bible: Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7751



Otto von Bismarck: The power of Russia can only be undermined by the separation of Ukraine from it ... it is necessary not only to tear off, but also to oppose Ukraine to Russia. To do this, you only need to find and nurture traitors among the elite and, with their help, change the self-awareness of one part of the great people to such an extent that they will hate everything Russian, hate their kind, without realizing it. Everything else is a matter of time. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7752


Stalin: The leaders come and go, but the people remain. Only the people are immortal, everything else is ephemeral. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7753


Bhagat Singh: We want a socialist revolution, the indispensable preliminary to which is the political revolution. That is what we want. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7754


You want a great debate to fall into?

Start debating someone on logical fallacies and what falls under what fallacy... the conversation is interesting to say the least lol

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Shiri Bailem

@milquetoast :milquetoast: This!

But in this case we were debating on exact definitions of appeal to authority, and it devolved a little because I gave the example "Are you a doctor? Because Dr. Phil says..." and they called it Ad Hominem...

We settled on it depends on the context of said statement, but it's ultimately appeal to authority in both cases, just in some contexts it's also ad hominem



Lenin: War is a continuation of policy by other means. All wars are inseparable from the political systems that engender them. The policy which a given state, a given class within that state, pursued for a long time before the war is inevitably continued by that same class during the war, the form of action alone being changed. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7755


Bhagat Singh: The struggle in India would continue so long as a handful of exploiters go on exploiting the labour of the common people for their own ends. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7756



John Locke: Reading furnishes the mind only with materials of knowledge; it is thinking that makes what we read ours. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7757


Lenin: But Marxists know that democracy does not abolish class oppression. It only makes the class struggle more direct, wider, more open and pronounced, and that is what we need. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7758


Lenin: Socialism cannot be decreed from above. Its spirit rejects the mechanical bureaucratic approach; living, creative socialism is the product of the masses themselves. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7759


Xi Jinping: Marx is the teacher of revolution for the proletariat and working people all over the world, as well as the main founder of Marxism, creator of Marxist parties, pathfinder for international communism and the greatest thinker of modern times. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7760



Lenin: The essential nature of international relations under capitalism—the open robbery of the weaker—is fully and clearly exposed by war. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7761


Lenin: The Economist, a journal that speaks for the British millionaires, is pursuing a very instructive line in relation to the war. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7762


Kim Jong-il: A decadent material life, a poor mental and cultural life and a reactionary political life-these can be said to be the main characteristics of capitalist society, and they show the anti-popular nature and corruption of modern imperialism. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7763


Joe Biden: The only thing that can provoke a hostile and energetic response from Russia is NATO expansion into the Baltic states. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7764



Leila Khaled: I have learned that a woman can be a fighter, a freedom fighter, a political activist, and that she can fall in love, and be loved, she can be married, have children, be a mother... Revolution must mean life also; every aspect of life. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7765


Lenin: This state of affairs prevails not only in Russia, but in every other country where Capital rules. A handful of bankers, who have the whole world in their grip, are making a fortune out of the war. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7766



Clara Zetkin: The cruel fate of the masses weigh with especial heaviness on the women, unless they happen to be appendages of the capitalist industrialist magnates, dealers, speculators, profiteers, and usurers. There is no misery of the present day which is not felt by the women with double and multiple intensity. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7768


Gramsci: One doesn’t remake society by fiat, because the evil of the past is not an edifice of papier-mâché that is brought down in an instant. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7769


Rafael Cancel Miranda: They presented us to the world as a slave who is proud of their chains, which is an insult! https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7770


Lyudmila Pavlichenko: Every time my bullet fells a Nazi I have the feeling that I have saved lives. Any people who have had Nazis trampling over their land know that for the Nazis kill children, women, old men. To let a Nazi remain alive in your land is to abet the murder of your own people. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7771


Eric Ambler: The important thing to know about an assassination or an attempted assassination is not who fired the shot, but who paid for the bullet. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7772



Stalin: The Ukraine with its natural wealth has long been an object of imperialist exploitation. Before the revolution the Ukraine was exploited by the Western imperialists quietly, so to speak, without "military operations." https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7773



Lenin: If socialism is not victorious, peace between the capitalist States will be only a truce, an interlude, a time of preparation for a fresh slaughter of the peoples. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7775