But in this case we were debating on exact definitions of appeal to authority, and it devolved a little because I gave the example "Are you a doctor? Because Dr. Phil says..." and they called it Ad Hominem...
We settled on it depends on the context of said statement, but it's ultimately appeal to authority in both cases, just in some contexts it's also ad hominem
Lenin: War is a continuation of policy by other means. All wars are inseparable from the political systems that engender them. The policy which a given state, a given class within that state, pursued for a long time before the war is inevitably continued by that same class during the war, the form of action alone being changed. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7755
Lenin: But Marxists know that democracy does not abolish class oppression. It only makes the class struggle more direct, wider, more open and pronounced, and that is what we need. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7758
Lenin: Socialism cannot be decreed from above. Its spirit rejects the mechanical bureaucratic approach; living, creative socialism is the product of the masses themselves. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7759
Xi Jinping: Marx is the teacher of revolution for the proletariat and working people all over the world, as well as the main founder of Marxism, creator of Marxist parties, pathfinder for international communism and the greatest thinker of modern times. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7760
Kim Jong-il: A decadent material life, a poor mental and cultural life and a reactionary political life-these can be said to be the main characteristics of capitalist society, and they show the anti-popular nature and corruption of modern imperialism. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7763
Leila Khaled: I have learned that a woman can be a fighter, a freedom fighter, a political activist, and that she can fall in love, and be loved, she can be married, have children, be a mother... Revolution must mean life also; every aspect of life. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7765
Lenin: This state of affairs prevails not only in Russia, but in every other country where Capital rules. A handful of bankers, who have the whole world in their grip, are making a fortune out of the war. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7766
Clara Zetkin: The cruel fate of the masses weigh with especial heaviness on the women, unless they happen to be appendages of the capitalist industrialist magnates, dealers, speculators, profiteers, and usurers. There is no misery of the present day which is not felt by the women with double and multiple intensity. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7768
Lyudmila Pavlichenko: Every time my bullet fells a Nazi I have the feeling that I have saved lives. Any people who have had Nazis trampling over their land know that for the Nazis kill children, women, old men. To let a Nazi remain alive in your land is to abet the murder of your own people. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7771
Stalin: The Ukraine with its natural wealth has long been an object of imperialist exploitation. Before the revolution the Ukraine was exploited by the Western imperialists quietly, so to speak, without "military operations." https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7773
Lenin: If socialism is not victorious, peace between the capitalist States will be only a truce, an interlude, a time of preparation for a fresh slaughter of the peoples. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7775
Jessica Smith: We salute you, Liudmila Pavlichenko, for all that you have done and will do in our common cause. The strength and inspiration we draw from your presence among us will help each one of us to be a better fighter against the enemies of mankind. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7776
Lyudmila Pavlichenko: Only the dead Nazi can he trusted to leave the innocent unharmed. Every Hitlerite killed is a step forward on the road to the liberation of mankind. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7777
Andrei Yanuaryevich Vyshinsky: The proletarian state is a special form of leadership of the remaining masses of toilers by the proletariat. For precisely this reason it represents the highest form of democracy possible in a class society. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7778
Random thought of a brighter aspect of the #ai future:
We're not too far off from AI video editing, and imagine writing out a list of all your triggers, loading it into an AI, and then having it edited movies and tv shows to remove all triggering content.
Lenin: Thus, the twentieth century marks the turning-point from the old capitalism to the new, from the domination of capital in general to the domination of finance capital. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7780
Andrei Yanuaryevich Vyshinsky: Marxism-Leninism ... teaches that the legal relationships (and, consequently, law itself) are rooted in the material conditions of life, and that law is merely the will of the dominant class, elevated into a statute. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7781
Andrei Yanuaryevich Vyshinsky: Soviet democracy ensures the domination in society of the will of the majority of the workers and peasants, the majority of the working people, as participants in the administration of the state. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7783
Andrei Yanuaryevich Vyshinsky: (The) Soviet government is the expression of the most complete and most fully developed democracy. At the same time, it is the expression of the dictatorship of the working class, which secures the very possibility of democracy for the people. Soviet democracy and proletarian dictatorship are two aspects of one and the same phenomenon. https://wordsmith.social/protestation/quotes#quote7784
Shiri Bailem
Unknown parent • •@milquetoast :milquetoast: This!
But in this case we were debating on exact definitions of appeal to authority, and it devolved a little because I gave the example "Are you a doctor? Because Dr. Phil says..." and they called it Ad Hominem...
We settled on it depends on the context of said statement, but it's ultimately appeal to authority in both cases, just in some contexts it's also ad hominem